Re: F39 proposal: BiggerESP (Self-Contained Change proposal)

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On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:15 PM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BiggerESP
>
> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
> by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.
>
> == Summary ==
>
> The Fedora installer includes an EFI System Partition of between 200MB
> and 600MB by default, of which the lower size is much too small for
> firmware updates on modern hardware and also for future bootloader
> features like UKI.
> This change will increase the minimum size of the ESP to be 500MB,
> which is also the same value used by Microsoft for Windows 10 and
> newer.

While I believe this to be low impact I do believe it should be a
system wide change as it impacts all aarch64 and basically all the
x86_64 we actively care about.

> == Owner ==
> * Name: [[User:rhughes| Richard Hughes]]
> * Email: richard@xxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> == Detailed Description ==
>
> Modern hardware has UEFI firmware updates that are more than 64MB in
> size. The OEMs recommend a ESP free space of double the flash size
> plus 20MB and fwupd now enforces this requirement to ensure flash
> success. As the ESP is often shared between Windows and Linux, and
> also used for firmware updates, and soon to be used by UKIs it's not
> enough to just allocate a few hundreds of megabytes. Windows 10 and 11
> allocates an ESP of at least 500MiB. Arch also specifies a minimum of
> 512 MiB.
>
> == Feedback ==
>
> There is no alternative -- the ESP has to scale up if we want firmware
> updates to continue to work and to support UKIs for next-generation
> bootloaders.
>
> == Benefit to Fedora ==
>
> Firmware updates will work on future hardware, and we can boot the
> kernel using UKIs using next-generation bootloaders.
>
> == Scope ==
> * Proposal owners:
>
> We need to change a number in Anaconda:
> https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/4711
>
> == Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
>
> We can't grow the ESP in size, and so this change will only affect new
> installs. This is fine, as this will affect new hardware more than old
> hardware.
>
> == How To Test ==
>
> Install Fedora and observe that /boot/efi has at least 276MB free
> space, even when installed alongside Windows.
>
> == Dependencies ==
>
> Anaconda would need to be modified, and Fedora would have a / or /home
> partition that's ~300MB smaller by default than it is now.
>
> == Contingency Plan ==
>
> * Contingency mechanism: (What to do?  Who will do it?) N/A (not a
> System Wide Change)
> * Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
> * Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change), No
>
> == Documentation ==
>
> N/A (not a System Wide Change)
>
> == Release Notes ==
>
> Fedora now defaults to a larger EFI System Partition which allows
> firmware updates to work on newer hardware, and allows future
> bootloader and kernel modernizations.
>
>
> --
> Ben Cotton
> He / Him / His
> Fedora Program Manager
> Red Hat
> TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis
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