On Fri, 2023-04-21 at 09:11 +0000, Michael J Gruber wrote: > > In any case, we have quite a fragmentation right now with the MLs, > forum (discourse), IRC, Matrix, plus tickets on various platforms > (bz, dist-git, pagure, gitlab) some of which offer teams and > discussions, too. Choice is good, fragmentation is not because it > makes it hard to know: > - Where can I reach whom? > - Where can I discuss what? This is true, but I think it's interestingly worth noting we've pretty much *always* had the same fragmentation. For instance, as I recall, back when I joined in 2009, we had: * Mailing lists * Forum (fedoraforum - this is/was not official, but commonly used, and illustrates a point that if people want some form of communication, they'll use it, even if we don't have an "official" one; see also Fedora discord and Fedora telegram) * IRC (the addition of Matrix hasn't fragmented things much really, as IRC and Matrix are bridged in both directions) * Bugzilla * Trac (playing the approximate current role of Pagure issues) * Various platforms for "upstreams", like Sourceforge (playing the current role of Pagure source tracking, gitlab, github etc.) * Usenet (alt.os.linux.fedora. This is *still* around, and some wonderful genius whose hand I want to shake has set up a bot that forwards Fedora Magazine posts to it. The last post by someone other than a bot was from "nw", on January 20. Until today. Now it's from me!) I'm not sure it's possible to achieve zero- or low-fragmentation. Fragmentation just seems to...*happen*. If you build one system that does everything it's too big and unwieldy and people use more targeted systems for 'simplicity'. -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
