Re: KDE RedHat project

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Steve Bergman wrote:


Adding repositories is not a big deal for us old hands; It's just a PITA, nothing more. But the newbie is already overwhelmed by switching OSes. To them, "Fedora just doesn't support multimedia". All discussions of "feature parity" aside, when's the last time you saw an Ogg Theora stream on Yahoo's site?

   Yeah,  streaming media is the worst of it.

Ogg Vorbis is a fine format to "rip, mix and burn", and its what I use for ordinary listening -- even if I'm on Windows. With a good set of headphones (digital USB) I can hear the difference between Ogg @ 200k and the common MP3 @ 128k, and definitely Ogg @ 128k is better than MP3 @ 128k. Recently I noticed that I could tell the difference between listening to the CD and Ogg @ 200k, which pushes for FLAC, a free lossless format that's quite comparable to ALAC and other commercial competitors.

I still make 64k MP3's to download to my flash player, but there's nothing like Live365 in Ogg Vorbis land. However, Vorbis is widely supported these days -- years ago I used to argue with an activist friends that the difference between putting an Orbis stream online and no stream at all was infinitesimal, but a year later it was supported by popular media players in Windows.

The disturbing development these days are formats like MP3Pro and AAC3 which use Spectral Band Replication to throw out the highs and then reconstruct fake highs from the low. These are particularly attractive if you're aiming for the "beer commercial" sound of modern FM radio and have the audio processing chain to match. The sound is superficially attractive at low bit rates, but is atrocious if you listen carefully -- needless to say, a whole new set of legal barricades has been built against open source implementation of these standards.

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I'd argue, however, that "positive propaganda" is the right strategy here too: if RH (and much of the OS community) takes the principled stand of providing a free media stack, it ought to put a little bit of energy into promoting free media formats -- for instance, it would be nice to see a web site promoting the Ogg Vorbis streams that are out there, just as there are sites promoting the SBR heresy...

http://www.tuner2.com/

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