On Thu, 2023-04-06 at 12:56 -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 12:32 PM Simo Sorce <simo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2023-04-03 at 16:18 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 3 2023 at 01:41:48 PM -0700, Brian C. Lane <bcl@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > wrote: > > > > This seems like exactly the kind of discussion that belongs on the > > > > devel > > > > list, not on a website that I have to remember to visit for updates. > > > > > > There is a notification bell in the right sidebar. Click it. ;) > > > > > > > Or we can simply ignore that discussion until it lands in devel with a > > change proposal. > > > > Discussing on the forum was a suggestion from zbyszek and I think he > proposed it in the same spirit that I agreed to the proposal - as an > experiment in trying to align technical discussions more closely with the > overall direction of the Fedora project for communication. > > I think we can see both pros and cons in how it's gone - on the good side, > people are involved that might not be involved otherwise, there's an easily > accessible public record of the conversation that is more readable than > even a good mailing list archive, and having richer markup available is > genuinely useful. > > On the downside, spam limits on new posters have gotten in the way in some > cases, and people have had some trouble figuring out how to use the quoting > features, resulting in disconnected responses. > > Yes, there will eventually be change proposals, which will be discussed > here (unless anything changes...) but I would strongly encourage people to > get involved now in the discussion if they care about the topic - the more > we can get things right early, the better. Sorry Owen, discourse is too disruptive for me to spend time on. I did try to skim the discussion and I think you have quite a few hints already that this is not an easy path. What I would recommend though, is to split this monster of a proposal in smaller progressive steps. You do not need to get everything super-tight-secure on the first try (you won't be able to anyway), and building it in steps will allow you to also (hopefully) offer a more fine-grained choice/configuration later on. Simo. -- Simo Sorce RHEL Crypto Team Red Hat, Inc _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
