Re: F39 proposal: RPM 4.19 (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 3:38 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
<zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 02, 2023 at 09:54:04PM +0200, Dan Čermák wrote:
> > The only benchmark that *I* am aware of is this one done by Martin
> > Jambor: https://jamborm.github.io/spec-2022-07-29-levels/
>
> This is very … underwhelming. x86-64-v2 is essentially identical to x86-64-v1.
> x86-64-v3 is better. It even shows speed-ups of 20%, but only with -Ofast.
> And -Ofast is not something that can be enabled as a default build flag,
> because it leads to surprising and unpredictable behaviour in some cases. (*)
> At -O2, which we use, the speed up is maybe 10%.
>
> > tl;dr; v2 does not really bring notable improvements, only v3 but also
> > only in some selected synthetic benchmarks.
> >
> > openSUSE Tumbleweed went a different route and chose to utilize
> > glibc-hwcaps instead:
> > https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:X86-64-Architecture-Levels
> > https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/ZOHLT4CQ7TDOJJ2VV7HKMN5G2MR2CTMD
>
> Yeah, I think that's the way to go. I think we should identify 100
> shared libraries which would be positively impacted by x86-64-v3
> and provide a -v3 subrpm for them. This would be a nice feature for
> F40.
>

This is further confirmed by Arch's data that even x86_64-v3 isn't
necessarily great either:
https://sunnyflunk.github.io/2023/01/15/x86-64-v3-Mixed-Bag-of-Performance.html

It seems that moving to -O3 would provide more gains than x86_64-v3.

Otherwise, the only thing you really get from moving subarches is
breaking lots of hardware.




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