Hello, just a small update. We have verified recently that Packit staging correctly creates F38 updates now: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-b3613064bf
This will land in production tomorrow, so as of March 7th, Packit will correctly create F38 dist-git PRs and everything else.
Fabio, thank you for giving us a list of missing updates.
Maintainers in CC, please update your f38 dist-git branches & provide bodhi updates before the final freeze, Tue 2023-04-04, so that you have up to date versions in Fedora 38 before the release.
In my former email, I thought that only bodhi updates are missing. That was incorrect, f38 dist-git branch needs to be updated as well.
Tomas
On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 8:23 PM Tomas Tomecek <ttomecek@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 4:48 PM Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:On 02. 03. 23 16:06, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 3:47 PM Tomas Tomecek <ttomecek@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Fabio, answers inline below.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 5:50 PM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 5:34 PM Matej Focko <mfocko@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> - linux-system-roles v1.35.1: submitted to F39, F37, F36, but not F38
>>> - osbuild-composer v75: submitted to F39, F37, F36, but not F38
>>> - cockpit-composer v44: submitted to F39, F37, F36, but not F38
>>> - gpxsee v12.1: submitted to F39, F37, F36, but not F38
>>> - osbuild v81: submitted to F37, F36, but not F39 or F38 (?)
>>> - mrack v1.13.3: submitted to F39, F37, F36, EPEL9, EPEL8, but not F38
>>> - osbuild-composer v76: submitted to F39, F37, F36, but not F38
>>
>>
>> Thank you for the list, once we get guidance on how to proceed (see below), we will create those missing updates.
>>
>>> Whatever the reason, what should be done about the missing updates?
>>> I'll be publishing my "builds + updates missing from Fedora Branched
>>> report" soon anyway, so the packages will show up there either way ...
>>
>>
>> We as Packit have honestly the same question: what does this freeze exactly mean? Should we continue creating bodhi updates?
>>
>> CCing Ben to give us guidance.
>
> The fact that a release is currently "frozen" should not affect
> submission of updates at all.
> The only difference there is how updates are pushed from "testing" to
> "stable" state:
> Updates will not be submitted to "stable" repos automatically after a
> few days, but only after the freeze is officially lifted.
>
> Since packager's cannot "mess this up" (it is enforced by update
> infrastructure), there is no reason to not build + submit updates for
> releases that are currently in a "freeze", especially if you are also
> submitting the updates to stable branches of Fedora.
In other words: It depends. Same as with updates to stable releases.
I'd say that if you are creating the update in stable releases, you should also
create it in frozen/branched. Not doing it creates mess.
However, whether or not an update is suitable for a stable release or for a
post-Beta branched release must always be decided by the packager and never by
a service.Perfect, thanks for the explanation, Fabio and Miro.We will create the missing updates.We have already fixed this and it will be rolled out to production on Tue, 7th.
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