On Fri, 2023-02-24 at 11:55 -0500, Solomon Peachy via devel wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 05:55:55AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Ah right, I had forgotten about that issue. I do not think I will ever > > understand the fascination some projects have for JIRA. It is proprietary, > > and IMHO the web UI for users to report bugs in JIRA is very confusing at > > times. (The Bugzilla one can be confusing at times as well, but at least it > > is familiarly confusing. ;-) ) > > Middle management *LOVES LOVES LOVES* Jira. Not middle management is generally as confused as other users. Where Jira is really helpful is project management, and when you have many, large, interconnected sub teams and sub projects, Jira really has tooling that helps. Of course like all tools it has its good things, and its bad compromises, the UI being one of them. But the data model behind it allows a lot of functionality (it is basically an SQL database), and the dashboards and other prepackaged widgets allow exploration of the data to a level that bugzilla does not allow (or if it does at considerably harder cost, so high very few ever bother trying). > As for everyone else... let's just say that it's not repeatable in polite company. > > (I admit I'm surprised that "Free Software for Everything" Red Hat is > chosing to base something so fundamental to their business on a highly > proprietary tool. I suppose O365 is just a matter of time...) One of the bad things is that Jira is not Open Source, and I think we'll ultimately may end up regretting the choice, but not in the short term (there is no equivalent really in the open source world) ... and pragmatically, in the long run we are all dead, so while we wait for something better, we will have to use the least worst. Simo. -- Simo Sorce RHEL Crypto Team Red Hat, Inc _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
