Re: F39 proposal: Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39 (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 7:46 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 01:46:24PM +0000, Ian McInerney via devel wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 6:42 PM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/F39ModernizeTBB
> >
> > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
> > by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.
> >
> > == Summary ==
> > Fedora is currently shipping version 2020.3 (released July 10, 2020)
> > of the Thread Building Blocks library. The current upstream version is
> > 2021.8 (released December 22, 2022). The Fedora community has
> > expressed [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2036372
> > interest] in moving the TBB package to track a more modern version of
> > the upstream.
> >
> > == Owner ==
> > * Name: [[User:trodgers| Thomas Rodgers]]
> > * Email: trodgers@xxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > == Detailed Description ==
> > Fedora has shipped with version 2020.3 of the Thread Building Blocks
> > library since Fedora 33. The
> > upstream project made a decision to break backward compatibility after
> > that version was released.
> > As packages move to match the upstream's changes it becomes more
> > difficult to defer updating the
> > Fedora packaging for TBB. The situation is further complicated as
> > there are currently a majority
> > of TBB dependent packages which have not been updated to track a new
> > upstream release, as detailed in this
> > [https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2036372#c1 analysis] on
> > the tracking issue.
> >

Hi,

sorry for picking up this thread so late…

> > ** A compat package based on the current 2020.3 version of the
> > existing TBB package will be created.

A reminder: you don't need a new review, a compat package can be
created without any fuss [1].

[1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/ReviewGuidelines/#_package_review_process


True, but changing rpms/tbb is a system wide change, yes? And I can't really execute that change without
also having the compat package, which most of the existing TBB dependent packages will need to move to, with
a small subset able to remain on the packaging for a newer oneTBB.

The change proposal seemed at the time to be a place to capture all of that.

> > This proposal aims to provide a way to modernize the TBB packge
> > version for Fedora while providing stability for those packages which
> > continue to depend on the older TBB library version.
> >
> > It will be possible to install both devel and runtime versions of both
> > TBB packages, however the devel compat package for version 2020.3 will
> > require clients to point to a new include path where the legacy
> > headers will be found.

Parallel runtime installation is obviously required.
But is it necessary to have parallel installation of devel headers?
It might be less work to have conflicting -devel packages and just
BuildRequire one or the other.

It might not be necessary. I don't expect to start the actual work on this for another 3-4 weeks, we have time to work
through that discussion before committing to it.
 

Zbyszek
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