Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

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On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 3:48 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I was asked to weigh in on https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7215 as a
> priority. Last time we talked about this we didn't really get anywhere...
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/JYKVELSBJQMEK6KEFXG354ZDZDDX4C5G/#RLEUYSWOUVUS53YAP7WQQNN7HNEBIC4E
>
> ... and that ticket hasn't moved, because fixing it isn't trivial.
>
>
> What we're doing now — as has been the case for several years, already noted
> in the previous discussion — has very little end-user value. Also as noted
> in that thread (as in the ticket)... that's unfortunate, because it did
> bring some real benefits (and could possibly do even more.)
>

Our tooling has been broken for a long time and contributions to that
tooling is just not going to happen since nobody can run this stuff
outside of Fedora infrastructure. It's a sad state of affairs indeed.

> But, I think it's time to move on. We have ostree and various
> container-delta approaches. We should focus on those — and give DeltaRPMs a
> sad, fond farewell.
>

Please don't try to equate those things to DeltaRPMs, unless you're
trying to equate their general uselessness. OSTree and
"container-delta" stuff is not generally useful or applicable for
Fedora users and they won't be for a very long time.

And they might never be useful because OSTree's approach requires us
to use OSTree remotes (which we're killing for OCI remotes), and
there's no standard for "container-delta" since the baseline OCI
format isn't amenable to delta fetching.







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