Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > PS: The impression I get is that everything was deliberately rigged so > that the vote would end up the way it did: > > 1. A new ticket was filed, in order to exclude the participants of the > previous discussion. > 2. The people watching the old ticket were NOT notified. > 3. The Tools Team was NOT notified. > 4. The proponents of the Change, on the other hand, WERE notified. > > So, with all of the above, the discussion participants were preselected to > only include people in favor of the change. > > 5. The ticket was filed in the middle of the holiday season. Many people > in Europe are on vacation until today. > 6. There was NO thread about the reopening of the discussion on the > mailing list. The first message that mentioned the issue on the mailing > list was "Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2023-01-03)" from > 2023-01-03 09:39 UTC, only 7 hours 21 minutes before the meeting. This is > in contrast to the Change policy requiring at least a week between the > mailing list announcement and opening the FESCo ticket. > 7. Only 4 days had elapsed between the (unannounced) opening of the ticket > and the vote. This is clearly insufficient. The one week in the Change > policy that I cited above is designed as a minimum time for discussion. > 8. The change was approved only 2 weeks before the mass rebuild, leaving > little to no time to revert it in the contigency case. > > So, this ensured that whoever was deliberately NOT invited had no chance > to find out by themselves and intervene before it was too late. > > This strikes me as extremely intransparent and undemocratic. PPS: This is particularly striking when you consider that the same person who filed the new ticket and excluded one side from the discussion entirely was the one complaining just a month earlier about the OLD discussion: > Yes, but the other stakeholder I wanted there didn't even know it was on > the agenda yesterday, which meant we mostly heard only one side (the > toolchain people). See: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2817#comment-830204 Complaining about something and then deliberately doing the same thing the other way round, way to go! Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
