Re: F38 proposal: Rpmautospec by Default (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 3:30 AM Petr Pisar <ppisar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> V Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 02:10:52PM -0500, Neal Gompa napsal(a):
> > Have we made sure that when Red Hat forks Fedora packages for RHEL
> > that they don't truncate or eliminate the Git history anymore? Because I would
> > personally be very displeased if my historical attribution went away
> > because of broken processes like the one used to fork all the Fedora
> > Linux 34 packages for CentOS Stream 9.
> >
> It's not only about loosing attributions. There will be NEVRA discrepancies in
> RHEL:
>
> Different number of commits will mean different release numbers. That will
> break package interdependencies which requires a specific release number. E.g
> foo requires bar. Fedora bar-1-2 contains a vital fix for foo. Thus Fedora foo
> will strengthen the dependency with "Requires: bar >= 1-2". However, after
> importing to RHEL, bar will become bar-1-1. The dependency from foo will
> break.

That's a good point.  The design works well within a single,
continuous development environment such as Fedora's but any usage of
the sources outside of that, either by importing SRPMs or by importing
subsets of dist-git, seems like it would struggle.  Does something
like OBS suffer from the same issue?  Seems it would, but I don't know
much about how OBS works.

> Another RHEL problem will be fixes for minor RHEL version. E.g. RHEL 10.0 will
> contain foo-1-1, RHEL-10.1 updates to foo-1-2, then RHEL-10.0 backports
> the change, preferably as foo-1-1.el10_0.1. However, the generated rpmautospec
> schema won't allow it and will produce foo-1-2.el10_0. I foresee RHEL
> maintainers to revert rpmautospec to manual numbering for minor RHEL updates.

Or automation grows the ability to support that kind of versioning, if
it were to be used in RHEL.

> None of these issues are Fedora issues. But considering the ecosystems
> wholistically, the proposed rpmautospec propotion will add a friction.

Nothing is free, that's for sure :)

josh
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