Hello, On Friday, December 23, 2022 6:52:02 AM EST Tom Hughes via devel wrote: > On 23/12/2022 11:45, Naheem Zaffar wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2022 at 08:26, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > > <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > > wrote: > > On 23/12/2022 09:20, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > > I know this is way harder, but the right approach would be having > > a way > > > to tell systemd what processes can be killed and what other > > > processes > > > must not be forced off in any case, then display a user friendly > > message > > > which inform the user that the system cannot be forced off ATM > > "because > > > I'm doing this or that". In the worst case, the user can choose > > to pull > > > the plug themselves. > > > > I agree. Terminating the PackageKit service while updates are being > > installed can result in a broken system. > > > > Is there a way to be smarter about all this? > > > > 1. Set default at 15s or something short. > > 2. For services known to require longer (older pinephone modem firmware, > > libvirtd), allow a larger timeout for that specific service only > > 3. For services that should NOT be terminated have a mechanism for them > > to not be cut off > > Despite the title of this change I believe the proposal is only > to change the default timeout and a service would still be able to > set a different timeout in it's service file. I wonder if this proposal should also include verifying that known problem services have an appropriate override? -Steve _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue