On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 10:40:23PM +0100, allan2016--- via devel wrote: > På Thu, 22 Dec 2022 10:29:29 -0800 > Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> skrev: > > On Thu, 2022-12-22 at 18:44 +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 12:35:54PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Shorter_Shutdown_Timer > > > > > > > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > > > > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > > > > community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if > > > > approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. > > > > > > > > == Summary == > > > > A downstream configuration change to reduce the systemd unit > > > > timeout from 2 minutes to 15 seconds. > > > > > > Great change, please do it! > > > Also, sometimes after reaching the timeout, systemd extends wait by > > > another 2 minutes (or 1m30). I wasn't able to find in the sources or > > > documentation why this happens, but this behaviour should be > > > blocked. Otherwise some services after 15s will get another 15, and > > > then another… > > > > 15 seconds feels very aggressive to me. I can think of some cases, > > like libvirtd automatically suspending or cleanly shutting down > > running VMs, that might well take longer than that. Could we not go > > for 30 seconds? Going all the way from 90/120 down to 15 seems pretty > > radical. > > 15 seconds will for sure kill the modem on the Pinephones for good. > When the shutdown command are sent to the modem, it takes 20-30 seconds > for the modem to shut down completely. Powering off the phone before the > modem has completely shut down is more or less a sure way to kill the > modem for good, as it can destroy the user space data in the modem. > You will get a lot of angry Pinephone users - if introducing this > "feature" in rawhide ! That's good feedback. I believe that in this case it'd be suitable for the pinephone to install an override that extends the timeout. Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue