On Mi, 21.12.22 14:00, Fedora Development ML (devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > And journaling actually is more a problem than a solution due to > > firmware (or grub) filesystem drivers often not having full support for > > the journal. Luckily this is rarely a problem in practice because /boot > > is rarely written to. > > The journal is very useful when writing kernels there. how so? iirc grub's fs drivers can't even replay the journal? if you drop single files into vfat by creating a file under a random name, then writing the file linearly in full, then syncing, and then renaming it to the final name (and syncing again) you should get equal/better guarantees from the fs, in a way actually compatible with the pre-boot env. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Berlin _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue