https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UseMdadmForBIOSRAIDInAnaconda This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. == Summary == Use mdadm instead of dmraid to support BIOS RAID (Firmware RAID or Fake RAID) during the Fedora installation process. == Owner == * Name: [[User:vtrefny| Vojtech Trefny]] (Blivet) * Email: vtrefny AT redhat.com * Name: [[User:vponcova|Vendula Poncova]] (Anaconda) * Email: vponcova AT redhat.com == Detailed Description == [[Anaconda]] (or to be more precise [[Blivet]], the storage library Anaconda uses) is currently using dmraid to support the BIOS RAID devices (sometimes also called Firmware or BIOS RAID) during installation. We plan to replace dmraid by mdadm, which we are currently using for software RAID management. The main reason is that dmraid is no longer actively maintained. mdadm supports the two major BIOS RAID technologies: Common RAID Disk Data Format (DDF) [https://www.snia.org/tech_activities/standards/curr_standards/ddf standard by SNIA] and [https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/products/122484/memory-and-storage/datacenter-storage-solutions/intel-virtual-raid-on-cpu-intel-vroc.html Intel Matrix Storage Manager] format. mdadm is missing support for some older BIOS RAID formats that existed before DDF and are still supported by dmraid so by implementing this change, we will remove support for some BIOS RAID formats from the installer. == Feedback == We tried to [https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/thread/A6G5HTBXXIDQUMYBCILU264ZLEWF75ND/ get feedback from the community] to find out how many users use BIOS RAID and would be affected by this change (especially by removing support for the older formats). The only response was from the Fedora QA which has an Intel Matrix machine for testing which should be supported by mdadm. == Benefit to Fedora == Replacing a tool/library that is no longer being actively developed and maintained. Because we are replacing it with a tool that is currently used for software RAID management in the installer, this also means removing one dependency from the installer environment and remove the dmraid startup service from the installed system. == Scope == * Proposal owners: Changes to Blivet (replacing dmraid with mdadm for the specified BIOS RAID formats) and Anaconda (removing the `inst.nodmraid` flag) * Other developers: * Release engineering: * Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change) * Alignment with Objectives: == Upgrade/compatibility impact == This change will affect only new installations (the change only changes behaviour of the installer). == How To Test == A hardware with BIOS RAID support (DDF or IMSM) is required. (Creating a "fake" BIOS RAID with mdadm might be possible for testing, we'll add steps for testing without the hardware later (if possible).) Follow the test case for installing on BIOS/Firmware RAID: [[QA:Testcase_install_to_firmware_RAID]]. == User Experience == Users with supported BIOS RAIDs shouldn't notice a change, the installation should work the same for them. Users with older unsupported BIOS RAID formats won't be able to install Fedora on these arrays. For these users we'll recommend switching to software RAID. == Dependencies == == Contingency Plan == * Contingency mechanism: Revert the changes and keep using dmraid for all BIOS RAID formats. * Contingency deadline: Beta <!-- REQUIRED FOR SYSTEM WIDE CHANGES --> * Blocks release? No == Documentation == N/A (not a System Wide Change) == Release Notes == -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue