On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 09:48 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 12:04 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Richard W. M. Jones: > > > > > You only need network / wifi firmware blobs (although I'm sure they > > > are in themselves large) and then you can fetch anything else needed > > > for the hardware including graphics, right? > > > > I think you need graphics to set up wifi. > > Yeah, this is an awkward chicken-and-egg problem. Even if we assume > you're on a wired network, kernel modules generally - AIUI - try to > load the firmware once, on initial module load, and if they can't find > it, just give up, right? So we still have an ordering problem: how can > we delay the loading of modules that need firmware until the network is > up for us to be able to access the firmware files? > > Maybe I'm missing something that would help there, but it seems > tricky... > > Looking at sizes, iwlwifi firmware alone is 75M(!) ath10k is 6.8M, > ath11k is 12M, ath6k is 812K, so that's nearly another 20M. brcm/ is > another 6.4M and I *think* that's all wifi. There's a few other minor > ones, but that's a little over 100M of just wifi, with Intel by a huge > margin the worst offender. > > Does anyone know anyone we can talk to at Intel about this? It's pretty > obnoxious. > > In terms of what the other big space takers are in general: > > * amdgpu/ (AMD video cards) is ~20M > * intel/ (mainly Intel bluetooth) is ~15M [0] > * qed/ (some very high-end QLogic network cards) is ~10M [0] > * i915/ (Intel video firmware) is 8.4M > * mediatek/ is 7.7M [1] > * qcom/ is 7.3M > > Then it trails off from there. Just the wifi plus those 6 things are > around 170M, so the large majority of all the space taken. > > [0] No, we can't lose this - people install with Bluetooth > mice/keyboards > [1] For a quick win right now possibly we could assume nobody's going > to use one of those as the interface for a Fedora install and drop > that, not sure if it's a safe assumption > [2] We could possibly lose a bunch of this stuff, I'll look into it So since this turns out to be less important than I thought (thanks bcl for the correction) I won't poke it much further than I have today, but following up on the above, I've done a couple of PRs, one to strip more stuff in lorax: https://github.com/weldr/lorax/pull/1291 and one to dump a chunk of older iwlwifi firmwares: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/linux-firmware/pull-request/9 those combined would get us some breathing room for a while... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
