On Fri, Dec 9, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Timothée Ravier wrote: > Using layering will also conflict / not interact well with the move to > container based ostree image in F38: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainerStable (I'm only kind of following this thread and I agree we should not enable layering by default) But a note: from the rpm-ostree perspective, we intend to still fully support client side layering. Obviously this change suddenly makes it very straightforward to do derivative server-side layering/builds, and there's been a lot of excitement around that. I do expect most even semi-technical users to do this. But it's not clear to me that we should say that's the *only* path and at a technical level today a lot of work went into keeping that functionality. For example, today for OpenShift for example we client side package layer kernel-rt and a few other things. I obviously want us to move to always building an image, but it needs some work. There's also valid use cases around things like "I want to ssh to this one machine and install kernel-debug". _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue