Re: F38 proposal: Reproducible builds: Clamp build mtimes to $SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Thu Nov 10, 2022 at 15:23 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReproducibleBuildsClampMtimes
>
> This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
> process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
> community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
> by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.
>
> == Summary ==
>
> The `%clamp_mtime_to_source_date_epoch` RPM macro will be set to `1`.
> When an RPM package is built, mtimes of packaged files will be clamped
> to `$SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH` which is already set to the date of the latest
> `%changelog` entry. As a result, more RPM packages will be
> reproducible: The actual modification time of files that are e.g.
> modified in the `%prep` section or built in the `%build` section will
> not be reflected in the resulting RPM packages. Files in RPM packages
> will have mtimes that are independent of the time of the actual build.
>

Will packagers still be required to use install -p, cp -p, etc. to
preserve mtimes? For some packages, the source archives mtimes will be
lower than $SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH, but e.g. for ancillary Source files (e.g.
systemd units) stored in distgit, using -p won't make a difference,
because the mtimes aren't preserved when Koji clones the distgit
repository.

--
Best,

Maxwell G (@gotmax23)
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