Re: F38 proposal: Reproducible builds: Clamp build mtimes to $SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH (System-Wide Change proposal)

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* Alexander Sosedkin:

> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 2:03 PM Florian Weimer <fweimer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> * Alexander Sosedkin:
>>
>> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 11:53 AM Petr Pisar <ppisar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> An RPM package itself carry a build time in its RPM header.
>> >> Are we also going to fake this time in the name of
>> >> reproducibility?
>> >
>> > My opinion: yes, please do (%use_source_date_epoch_as_buildtime).
>> > And fake the builder hostname (%_buildhost).
>> > And enable back --enable-deterministic-archives in binutils:
>> > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1195883).
>> > And do whatever else is necessary to stop shipping binary packages
>> > that users can't reproduce bit-to-bit.
>>
>> The downside of doing this is that it's no longer possible to check
>> whether a build happened against a buildroot with a particular fix in
>> it.  The time-based check was never 100% reliable, but it could be used
>> as a good indicator in the past.
>
> No, no, false dichotomy alert.
> This is not a case where reproducibility rules out auditability.

Sure, not in principle.  I merely wanted to point out that this takes a
way a bit of information that was useful to some of us before.

Thanks,
Florian
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