On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 10:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > If we don't think it's worth doing that work, then we're kinda stuck > > > with openQA glomming onto the critpath definition to decide which > > > updates to test and gate, because I don't have any other current viable > > > choices for that, really. And we'd have to figure out a critpath > > > definition that's as viable as possible for both purposes. > > > > > > > > > BTW, one other thought I've had in relation to all this is that we > > > could enhance the current critpath definition somewhat. Right now, it's > > > built out of package groups in comps which are kinda topic-separated: > > > there's a critpath-kde, a critpath-gnome, a critpath-server, and so on. > > > But the generated critical path package list is a monolith: it doesn't > > > distinguish between a package that's on the GNOME critpath and a > > > package that's on the KDE critpath, you just get a big list of all > > > critpath packages. It might be nice if we actually did distinguish > > > between those - the critpath definition could keep track of which > > > critpath topic(s) a package is included in, and Bodhi could display > > > that information in the web UI and provide it via the API. That way > > > manual testers could get a bit more info on why a package is critpath > > > and what areas to test, and openQA could potentially target its test > > > runs to conserve resources a bit, though this might require a bit more > > > coding work on the gating stuff now I think about it. > > > > That sounds useful. We only need a volunteer to figure out the details > > and do the work ;) > > I actually did a huge rewrite of the thing that generates the critpath > data this week, and it probably wouldn't be tooooo much work, honestly. > The most annoying bit would be the Bodhi frontend stuff, but that's > because I'm bad at frontend dev in general. :P But yeah, this is > definitely off in sky-castle land. I'll add it to my ever-growing list > of sky-castle projects to do when I get a couple of years of spare > time... So, an update on this whole area! First off, I'm actually finding the time to do the sky-castle work. The releng critpath script now outputs critpath data by group: https://pagure.io/releng/c/621caa542acc142d57f1247e7644846f737f8eee?branch=main Bodhi (git HEAD Bodhi, anyway) can now read data in that format: https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/pull/4755 and when this PR is merged, it will be able to mark updates as critpath by groups: https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/pull/4759 This has the handy bonus effect of enabling us to remove one of our remaining uses of PDC. Once the Bodhi work is merged, I can send a PR for the releng ansible repo to define per-group greenwave policies, run the critpath.py script nightly on the Bodhi boxes, and switch to the 'json' critpath type in Bodhi config, and finally I can then enhance the openQA scheduler to only run the necessary tests for each update. Second, since nobody really opposed the idea of extending the critpath definition slightly, here's a formal proposal to implement that. I want to edit the wiki critpath page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_path_package and change it as follows: 1. Under Background, change "The packages required to sustain these actions make up the critical path." to: "The packages required to sustain these actions initially made up the critical path. Later, it was agreed that the maintainers of Editions, spins, and labs can also declare packages that provide other key functionality to be part of the ''critical path'' for that Edition, spin or lab." 2. Under Actions, change the first two sentences to read: "Packages required to perform the most fundamental actions on a system are always considered part of the ''critical path''. Those actions include: " Does anyone object to these proposed changes? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
