Re: F38 proposal: RPM Sequoia (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 9:58 AM Kevin Kofler via devel
<devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> > No, because when you do things like mirror repositories (especially
> > for private mirrors), that signature is the only way to verify the
> > integrity. HTTPS is only transport encryption from a particular
> > connection.
>
> HTTPS protects against a MITM on the connection introducing invalid
> repository contents, which I would assume to be the biggest threat here. But
> sure, it by design does not guarantee that the data on the remote end is
> valid to begin with.
>
> > Also, a ton of Fedora mirrors still don't use HTTPS for various reasons.
>
> I would say that those mirrors ought to be kicked out of the mirror list
> immediately.
>
> With Let's Encrypt having been available for years, there is really no
> excuse for not offering HTTPS. Assuming you own a domain name (which I
> assume to already be the case for all mirrors), setting up HTTPS with Let's
> Encrypt does not cost you a dime. Even if you are a commercial entity.
>

I'm not going to get into this too much, but suffice to say, it's not
universally accessible as a CA. And using Let's Encrypt for private
mirrors is sufficiently painful that I wouldn't recommend it.

> > Well, it might still be worthwhile to split out RPM's OpenPGP
> > implementation into its own project and allow people to contribute to
> > it. The worst that can happen is that nothing changes.
>
> If that implementation is really as awfully broken as Panu is saying, I do
> not think that that would be of much use, unfortunately.
>

There have been attempts to fix things, but Panu doesn't feel
qualified to review the changes. That doesn't mean someone else who
would be willing to do so couldn't. But because of... reasons, as long
as it's in the RPM codebase, it's unlikely someone else will be
trusted enough to do those reviews.



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