Hi, On 10/5/22 17:16, Christopher Klooz wrote: > The current issue on 5.19.12 made it necessary for some users to change their kernel on boot to avoid 5.19.12 until the update to 5.19.13 was pushed to stable. Obviously, the option to easily boot recent kernels can be necessary in several circumstances, especially for non-advanced users it has proven to be very helpful on ask.fp to achieve that with two easily-to-describe clicks. > > However, on ask.fp, a user mentioned that the grub menu is no longer enabled by default on single boot systems so that changing the kernel is no longer easily possible, and put forward https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/HiddenGrubMenu as evidence for this argument. Yet, the article indicates that the argument is not fully correct and even with single boot installations, SHIFT can be used to get into the grub menu. Generally, my experience with non-advanced users on ask.fp and in general does not correspond to the arguments in the article. However, on all my Workstation and KDE/lxqt spin installations (one originally installed before F29, others between F33 & F36), this article does not apply at all, and by default, I can choose between the recent three kernels for 5 seconds in the grub menu on all single boot systems, unless I change the grub config myself. > > So first of all, does the article currently apply to any edition? If not, we might change the content to avoid further confusion... We still hide the grub menu by default on single OS installs, at least in the Workstation product. On EFI systems where holding down SHIFT relies on the EFI implementation actually giving us modififier key presses even when no "normal" key is pressed might not work, there are several other options documented in the hidden boot menu FAQ (also linked from the change page): https://hansdegoede.dreamwidth.org/19180.html Regards, Hans _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
