On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 7:35 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > How about this: > > Drop the term 'jump scare' entirely. IMHO it just sounds bad. I'm open for proposals on the wording. =) > Rework the change so it's basically planning on making this change in > f38. That makes it closer than currently, defeating the purpose of letting people prepare. > Before f38 beta freeze, change owners/fesco looks at the state of things > and decides if it can remain on in f38 and if not, it gets reverted and > moved to f39. Not sure how it's better than reverting in branched f38 but not rawhide, unless the goal is to hasten the change. > In the run up to f38 beta we could: > > * run a series of test days. perhaps one before you enable it in > rawhide, one a month or two later and one right before f38 beta > freeze? I'm for more test days. There was one held already and I'm open for holding more in the future. Plus I should attempt some side-tag mass-rebuild or equivalent, but I, unfortunately, won't get to it until October at the earliest. > * see if openqa might have some way to set TEST-FEDORA39 and re-run > tests on a compose or updates? This might be a good thing to try and do > before landing it in rawhide. Sounds great if that's a possibility, but I don't know how to approach it. > * setup a tracking bug to track the issues, so we can make a more > informed decision before f38 beta. > > Thoughts? If the core of your proposal is * make it happen in f38 and revert and push back to f39 only if necessary as opposed to * make it happen in f38 rawhide, f39 rawhide, f39 branched and released, but not f38 branched (the current proposal) then I can't say I understand what you are trying to achieve with that. IMO it makes the switch less certain, more frantic and more abrupt, while I was trying to smoothen it out in time as far as possible. So +1 on all the accompanying activities possible, -1 on expediting the switch. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue