On 7/16/05, Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 06:55:46PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > > They also said we should remove the content menu to get to the terminal > > > cause it scares people like my mom. > > > > Can anyone cite a single case of this? > > No but I can cite the reverse. Commodore made the mistake with the Amiga and > had to backpedal in the next release. They were however hiding the terminal > entirely not moving it off the default menu I'm not sure why there is so much fuss about this. I agree that it was a mistake to reduce the accessibility of the terminal, and I know a lot of non-geek users that get a lot of use out of it... at the same time, this change is completely consistent with the overall trend in Gnome development: It follows naturally from the, in my view mistaken, assumption that the best way to make the system easier to use is to design it for an operator with substantially diminished mental capacity rather than just designing for people who don't want to become Unix sysadmins just to use their computers. If you disagree with moving the terminal then you most likely disagree with hundreds of other things Gnome has done in the name of usability... So, you should be arguing these individual issues on the Gnome list or you should be lobbying for the transition of Fedora Core to another default desktop environment. It is unreasonable to ask the distribution maintainers to turn back the tide of gnome development, with patches, a teaspoon at a time. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list