On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 19:53 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > Actually, I think David touches on an important point here. While I > understand why the 'average user' might not need 'developer features' in > the basic gnome interface, and while I understand that these may > actually be confusing for the 'average user' if included, the back lash > from people on these lists (what I would mostly assume to be people > involved in the development process) makes me wonder how Gnome is going > to keep developers interested if they keep making 'development tools' > harder to access? (What a mouthful). It's not about making them harder to access; it's simply removing things that are only useful for developers and system administrators from the core desktop. Historically a large part of GNOME's audience was developers and system administrators, because that was the vast majority of the Linux user audience, but the point is we want to change that. Think of it this way: what if GNOME's historical audience had been musicians? Then the right click menu might have had "Open Musical Score Composer". Having that makes as much sense to the general population as "Open Terminal" does. As Bryan, Per, and others said though, we *do* want to make it easy for power users/developers to tweak extend and their desktop: http://live.gnome.org/PowerUserTools Someone should just package nautilus-open-terminal, which AFAICS should address the vast majority of complaints in this thread. With respect to the interface changing; that's true, but it seems to me that the GNOME/Fedora interface has been changing substantially in other ways (e.g. panel revamp from FC2->FC3) that the "Open Terminal" is just a relatively small part of it. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list