Re: F37 proposal: Build all JDKs in Fedora against in-tree libraries and with static stdc++lib (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 07:31:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> I am not talking about FLOSS vs non FLOSS, that's obvious. But bundled libs
> and properly tested / certified vs dynamic linking and less testing / no
> certification.

I've been following this circular thread from the outset (And I do make 
use of Fedora's JDK packages), but one thing I don't recall seeing is a 
specific (or even general) example of the sort of failures/problems that 
have come from linking against system libraries vs just using the 
bundled ones.

Relatedly, I think it would also be very valuable to know if these 
problems are mostly one-off (eg a major release of the jdk or dependent 
library lands in rawhide and breakage ensues), or occur throughout a 
specific release cycle (eg F35 gets libfoo 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 for a critical 
security update which leads to a failure to pass TCK, or quarterly 
java-1.8.x -> 1.8.y update cycle leads to a TCK failure due to fedora's 
bundled library libfoo version)

I mean, it's been strongly implied (if not outright stated) that 
resolving these unspecified TCK failures, caused by using non-bundled 
libraries, is the real burden, not the act of running the TCK for each 
build -- but is the TCK (or upstream JDK) really that _brittle_?

 - Solomon
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