On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 6:04 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 11:55 AM jiri vanek <jvanek@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > You can imagine TCK as gigantic and pretty good testsuite, runing 24hours with quite complicated setup. The pull and setup and run is completely autoamted, but it is a lot of HW you need (all architecures x all oses x all jdks). In adition, you need human power to keep with TCK evolution, sometimes to dapt setup, and to check resutls if they fails... and.. to fix it. We have HW from Red hat, and we deal with failures we keep track with usptream and TCK evolution. But it is not easy from human resources point of view. > > At this point, I'd rather have an OpenJDK in Fedora than not. If that > means switching to bundled libraries, then fine. But all bundled > libraries need to be documented in the spec file and that information > needs to be kept up to date. > > Can we do this without going down the route of building only once at > one distribution tag and tagging the binary into everything else? I agree. Can we discuss alternative routes to reduce maintenance burden for OpenJDK than what you're currently planning for the long term? Maybe we can think about whether it's absolutely necessary to keep maintaining three different LTS versions of OpenJDK? Dropping at least java-1.8.0-openjdk would already reduce maintenance burden for OpenJDK packages by over 25% (given that 1.8.0 seems to cause you most of the problems recenty). If statically linking against bundled versions of *some* dependencies would really help that much, it might also be worth considering, as a last resort, to keep OpenJDK packages in Fedora at all. However, I personally am strongly against the "follow-up" proposal, MoveFedoraJDKsToBecomePortableJDKs. Most importantly, the "Known issues" section on this wiki page sounds to me like it should be completely out of the question to actually go forward with the proposal. > Some time ago, jiri vanek <jvanek@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > We realy do no like this change, but we do not see another way. I wonder how this happened? Has this issue been brewing for a while? Or will Red Hat be downsizing the OpenJDK team in the near future? ;) Fabio _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
