On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 5:09 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 04:20:56PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 02:11:03PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > > First - our burden. We ahve to certify each binary. This is quite long > > > > and lenghty process. Onl once it is certified, we can release it (with > > > > small unwritten exception in rawhide) > > > > > > Just stop doing TCK certification. Most of Fedora users don't need > > > "certified binaries". > > > > Exactly. This change does not benefit Fedora, it is only to make > > certification easier. Certification which is not needed. > > At its heart the certification is a "sticker" that asserts our > JDK has passed the TCK test suite. IOW, saying that we don't need > certification of JDK is effectively saying that we don't need to do > testing of JDK in Fedora. Correct me if I'm wrong in that specific case, but, purely logically, "certification implies some testing" doesn't imply "lack of certification abolishes all testing". > Comprehensive testing of software is > something that very much does benefit Fedora and its users, and we > could do with a whole lot more of it in general. Further elsewhere > in this thread it has been clearly said that users of JDKs do > indeed value the certification as a sign of quality. So I don't > think we can credibly claim that certification is not needed. > > The challenege is how to make the certification managable for the > maintainers, while also having the packaging process be amenable > to Fedora processes. Eliminating testing of JDK is not a desirable > solution. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure