On 4/28/22 07:09, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:08 PM Demi Marie Obenour > <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 4/27/22 07:40, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 09:03:45PM -0500, Carl George wrote: >>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 1:25 PM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden >>>> <ewoud+fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> There is an ancient version of Puppet in EPEL-7. Version 3.6 has been >>>>> EOL for ages now. https://binford2k.com/2016/11/22/puppet-3.x-eol/ has a >>>>> nice EOL overview: >>>>> >>>>> * Puppet 3 - 2016-12-31 >>>>> * Puppet 4 - 2018-10-?? >>>>> * Puppet 5 - 2021-02-?? >>>>> >>>>> Puppet 6 requires a newer Ruby version than is available in EL7 so >>>>> rebasing the whole stack is not going to work. In theory you could use >>>>> SCLs but I think it's unrealistic to expect that. >>>>> >>>>> However, all bugs open for Puppet relate to EPEL-7[1] so I'm wondering >>>>> what to do. >>>>> >>>>> We can close all bugs as WONTFIX (including the security ones), but >>>>> would it be better to also remove the package from EPEL-7? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden >>>>> >>>>> [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&classification=Fedora&component=puppet&list_id=12574395&product=Fedora&product=Fedora%20EPEL >>>> >>>> Retiring epel7's puppet may be the preferred option. It is allowed >>>> [0], but if you go this route please mention it on the epel-devel list >>>> (and perhaps epel-announce) first. >>> >>> I should have realized this, will bring it up there. >>> >>>> Alternatively, have you considered doing an incompatible update [1] to >>>> version 5? It may already be EOL, but surely that's a better option >>>> than the current version 3 or removing it entirely. >>> >>> The Ruby version in EL7 is simply too old. In theory you could write a >>> ton of patches to make it compatible again, but the Puppet modules users >>> have may be assuming Ruby 2.4+ with Puppet 5. Also note that Puppet 5 >>> itself is already EOL (for more than a year), but packaging Puppet 6 vs >>> Puppet 5 (or really, Puppet 7 as well) isn't a big difference: you need >>> a newer Ruby. After that it's all minor differences. >>> >>>> [0] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Retirement_Process/#what_can_be_retired >>>> [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/epel-policy-incompatible-upgrades/ >> >> Bundle a newer Ruby? > > RHEL 7 has published "software collection library" versions of ruby, > titled "rh-ruby25". > > As somebody who's backported bulky software for RHEL based operating > systems, like Samba and current ansible and airflow and yes, years > ago, puppet, I don't recommend installing your own ruby. Resolving the > dependencies gets painful, fast. In that case, I would be fine with saying, “if you need to run Puppet on RHEL 7, do so in a container or VM based on a newer RHEL”. -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
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