On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 07:09:41AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 9:08 PM Demi Marie Obenour
<demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 4/27/22 07:40, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 09:03:45PM -0500, Carl George wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 1:25 PM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
>> <ewoud+fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> There is an ancient version of Puppet in EPEL-7. Version 3.6 has been
>>> EOL for ages now. https://binford2k.com/2016/11/22/puppet-3.x-eol/ has a
>>> nice EOL overview:
>>>
>>> * Puppet 3 - 2016-12-31
>>> * Puppet 4 - 2018-10-??
>>> * Puppet 5 - 2021-02-??
>>>
>>> Puppet 6 requires a newer Ruby version than is available in EL7 so
>>> rebasing the whole stack is not going to work. In theory you could use
>>> SCLs but I think it's unrealistic to expect that.
>>>
>>> However, all bugs open for Puppet relate to EPEL-7[1] so I'm wondering
>>> what to do.
>>>
>>> We can close all bugs as WONTFIX (including the security ones), but
>>> would it be better to also remove the package from EPEL-7?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
>>>
>>> [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&classification=Fedora&component=puppet&list_id=12574395&product=Fedora&product=Fedora%20EPEL
>>
>> Retiring epel7's puppet may be the preferred option. It is allowed
>> [0], but if you go this route please mention it on the epel-devel list
>> (and perhaps epel-announce) first.
>
> I should have realized this, will bring it up there.
>
>> Alternatively, have you considered doing an incompatible update [1] to
>> version 5? It may already be EOL, but surely that's a better option
>> than the current version 3 or removing it entirely.
>
> The Ruby version in EL7 is simply too old. In theory you could write a
> ton of patches to make it compatible again, but the Puppet modules users
> have may be assuming Ruby 2.4+ with Puppet 5. Also note that Puppet 5
> itself is already EOL (for more than a year), but packaging Puppet 6 vs
> Puppet 5 (or really, Puppet 7 as well) isn't a big difference: you need
> a newer Ruby. After that it's all minor differences.
>
>> [0] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Retirement_Process/#what_can_be_retired
>> [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/epel-policy-incompatible-upgrades/
Bundle a newer Ruby?
RHEL 7 has published "software collection library" versions of ruby,
titled "rh-ruby25".
As somebody who's backported bulky software for RHEL based operating
systems, like Samba and current ansible and airflow and yes, years
ago, puppet, I don't recommend installing your own ruby. Resolving the
dependencies gets painful, fast.
I agree you don't want to do that. And if you're going that route
anyway, why not use the official RPMs which do take that approach:
https://yum.puppet.com/
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