On 4/10/22 16:27, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 10:51 PM Gary Buhrmaster
<gary.buhrmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:01 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Moving past the Big Three(tm), the actual
cloud providers that matter from a Fedora context are the smaller
outfits that principally serve Linux users. These are companies like
DigitalOcean, Linode (Akamai), Hetzner, VexxHost, and others who
graciously do offer Fedora Linux in their platforms. All of their
virtualization platforms are BIOS only right now, and getting them to
switch requires them to uplift their platforms to support UEFI in the
first place.
They may only support Linux users today, but if
they want to grow (and while it is possible to
survive as a niche service, many see growth
as the way to increased revenue/profits (go
big or go home)), they are going to get pushed
(perhaps kicking and screaming) to support
UEFI as at least an alternative moving forward
as some of their customers are going to prefer
using a single provider, and Windows 11
requires UEFI(*)(**), and it would be a shame
if only the big players were eligible for hosting
such services(***).
Many of these comments seem to be about
the date, not the end state (UEFI)(****),
just like 32-bit x86 and armv7. No one wants
their personal ox gored, but there will come
a time when it will be time to let old systems
go.
"We" (and when I say "we", I understand that
is mostly not me), are going to have to
continue to document (and fix, where "we"
have the knowledge) the areas that need
improvement for UEFI booting and runtime.
Windows is a niche in the server space, rather than the default. And
Microsoft didn't even remove the server exception to continue using
BIOS until last year from the Windows platform qualification
documentation. It's *definitely* going to be a while, especially with
Windows Server 2019 being supported until the end of the decade.
Just tested installing Windows Server 2019 in a QEMU virtual machine on
a 40 GB virtual hard disk and 2 GB RAM. It formatted the disk as MBR and
installed just fine, no warnings, no deprecations, no nothing.
Mainstream support for Windows Server 2019 ends in January 9, 2024,
extended support lasts until January 9, 2029.
Windows 11 *does not matter* here. Windows Server is what matters
here, and there are no announced Windows Server versions following the
Windows 11 platform requirements.
I agree. IMO, Windows 11 is only good for home desktop use (and for that
purpose, Windows 10 is just as good, there are only cosmetic differences
in the UI), it is irrelevant for servers, because of the artificial
restrictions that Microsoft puts on their desktop operating systems
(limited number of connections, limited number of websites you can host
in IIS, etc.) in order to boost their Windows Server sales. Ironically,
due to this fact, Windows Server works better as a desktop, than Windows
10 or 11 as a server. At work we use Windows Server for web development
in Visual Studio, because it just works better, e.g. you can deploy
multiple web sites on your machine, etc. :)
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