On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 10:51 PM Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:01 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Moving past the Big Three(tm), the actual > > cloud providers that matter from a Fedora context are the smaller > > outfits that principally serve Linux users. These are companies like > > DigitalOcean, Linode (Akamai), Hetzner, VexxHost, and others who > > graciously do offer Fedora Linux in their platforms. All of their > > virtualization platforms are BIOS only right now, and getting them to > > switch requires them to uplift their platforms to support UEFI in the > > first place. > > They may only support Linux users today, but if > they want to grow (and while it is possible to > survive as a niche service, many see growth > as the way to increased revenue/profits (go > big or go home)), they are going to get pushed > (perhaps kicking and screaming) to support > UEFI as at least an alternative moving forward > as some of their customers are going to prefer > using a single provider, and Windows 11 > requires UEFI(*)(**), and it would be a shame > if only the big players were eligible for hosting > such services(***). > > Many of these comments seem to be about > the date, not the end state (UEFI)(****), > just like 32-bit x86 and armv7. No one wants > their personal ox gored, but there will come > a time when it will be time to let old systems > go. > > "We" (and when I say "we", I understand that > is mostly not me), are going to have to > continue to document (and fix, where "we" > have the knowledge) the areas that need > improvement for UEFI booting and runtime. > Windows is a niche in the server space, rather than the default. And Microsoft didn't even remove the server exception to continue using BIOS until last year from the Windows platform qualification documentation. It's *definitely* going to be a while, especially with Windows Server 2019 being supported until the end of the decade. Windows 11 *does not matter* here. Windows Server is what matters here, and there are no announced Windows Server versions following the Windows 11 platform requirements. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure