On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 11:14 AM Brian C. Lane <bcl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The reason I wrote the PR was because, as I understand it, syslinux is > going away soon. It was an easy patch to write, and I find it easier to > discuss things when there is code present (or absent as in this case). > > My *personal* opinion is we should not drop BIOS. I think BIOS will > continue to haunt use for the forseeable future, there is just too much > existing hardware that still works. But if the tools used to make it > work aren't present I have to remove them. > > So like I said yesterday, I'll look into switching to use grub2 for > Fedora 37, assuming grub2 continues to support BIOS. If switching from syslinux to GRUB isn't onerous, it's essentially an invisible change, i.e. new installations to BIOS systems is still possible. But also, it would give some breathing room to evaluate BIOS GRUB as a going-concern, versus clover. If we're looking at something like 2-3 years of BIOS support, that might favor sticking it out with BIOS GRUB. If it's much longer, that might favor using a UEFI emulator on BIOS systems to bring them forward. What about all the MBR handling in the installer? The change proposal doesn't mention it. But if the ability to install to BIOS systems were to go away, that would presumably take MBR with it. So I'm wondering if it's viable to use BIOS GRUB instead of syslinux, should inst.gpt become the default? And then would inst.mbr go away? Or would it stick around for another cycle or two as a manual fallback? Or is it simple and static enough that it'll persist for a long time without rotting? Hindsight being 20/20 I kinda wonder if we should have just bit the bullet on inst.gpt, because at least inst.mbr has been available this whole time. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure