On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 06:46:30AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Neal Gompa wrote: > > The pull request to delete the code for BIOS support in lorax means > > that we can't produce media with BIOS support at all once that's > > merged. They've tied dropping syslinux to dropping BIOS support > > entirely. It is also unclear that they'd take a contribution to rewire > > lorax to produce media with BIOS support using GRUB like we do for > > UEFI. > > So the change is actually already being implemented without approval? This > kind of forcing facts turns the whole change policy to the absurd. No. It's just a PR, and actually it's currently in Draft state to indicate that it isn't ready to be merged. If I merge it without approval from the community then you can yell at me :) > As I understand it, dropping support in Lorax affects both livemedia-creator > and livecd-creator, so the only way forward to build ISOs that actually boot > would be to fork Lorax. Unless we can reuse some other distro's tools > instead. This does not effect livecd-creator, that is a totally separate project that I am no longer involved with. It would effect lorax built boot.iso and live iso's created with livemedia-creator. Possibly also the DVD's built by pungi. The reason I wrote the PR was because, as I understand it, syslinux is going away soon. It was an easy patch to write, and I find it easier to discuss things when there is code present (or absent as in this case). My *personal* opinion is we should not drop BIOS. I think BIOS will continue to haunt use for the forseeable future, there is just too much existing hardware that still works. But if the tools used to make it work aren't present I have to remove them. So like I said yesterday, I'll look into switching to use grub2 for Fedora 37, assuming grub2 continues to support BIOS. Brian -- Brian C. Lane (PST8PDT) - weldr.io - lorax - parted - pykickstart _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure