On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 8:07 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 07/04/2022 18:10, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > While we do maintain a large set of patches downstream, due to upstream > > being inactive for a while, today upstream is alive and very much not > > abandoned: > > Why not upstream all those patches then? > It's not quite that simple. There are currently 214 patches on GRUB[1]. Some of those are backports of reviewed and merged patches, but a large chunk of them are feature development patches that are either in review or haven't been submitted because dependent patches are in review. Patch review is long, slow, and complex. It's even more so for GRUB. Top that with there being only one major committer for the upstream project right now (Daniel Kiper). I'm not fully aware of the dynamics of the GRUB project, so I don't know the reason for the lack of other committers. But needless to say, I know that Daniel considers it a top priority to eliminate the Red Hat GRUB fork by incorporating its changes into mainline because a large number of distributions use it instead of upstream due to the lack of responsiveness, feature development, and fixes present in the upstream code. However, taking it all in wholesale without review is crazy because then nobody else knows how the code was developed and if it should go in as-is. That said, my personal opinion is that a couple of the folks who work on RH GRUB should be part of the project leadership in upstream GRUB and have commit access to maintain and manage this. That may already be in place, but I don't know for sure. [1]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grub2/tree/d17f80cfd556d8a582756ee393361f6d203f2d77 -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure