On 4/8/22 01:01, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Ben Cotton wrote: >> == Owner == >> * Name: [[User:ajax|Adam Jackson]] >> * Email: ajax@xxxxxxxxxx >> >> == Detailed Description == >> >> Fedora's primary desktop environments are moving away from being X11 >> sessions, to being Wayland servers in their own right. This transition >> is incomplete, and the Xorg server is still potentially used in a >> variety of "fallback" situations. In particular the `vesa` and `fbdev` >> drivers can find themselves pressed into use when accelerated graphics >> is unavailable. Both of these drivers are somewhat deprecated >> upstream, and the code to reach them is increasingly fragile as it >> gets exercised less and less. >> >> This change will identify the remaining configurations that can reach >> these drivers, establish an alternative for display support for each >> configuration, and then remove the drivers and their support code in >> xserver. > > Removing the fallback drivers that (almost) always work strikes me as an > extraordinarily bad idea. It will knowingly desupport any graphics hardware > not covered by the main drivers and it may turn out to unknowingly desupport > even more hardware, where the hardware-specific drivers that should work > actually do not. It also means that there will be no workaround at all if > the native driver is temporarily broken on the given hardware for whatever > reason. Hence, I am strongly opposed to this change. > > Kevin Kofler Same here. There needs to be an always-working fallback, even if it is slow. -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure