Re: F37 Change: Legacy Xorg Driver Removal (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On 4/8/22 01:01, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Ben Cotton wrote:
>> == Owner ==
>> * Name: [[User:ajax|Adam Jackson]]
>> * Email: ajax@xxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> == Detailed Description ==
>>
>> Fedora's primary desktop environments are moving away from being X11
>> sessions, to being Wayland servers in their own right. This transition
>> is incomplete, and the Xorg server is still potentially used in a
>> variety of "fallback" situations. In particular the `vesa` and `fbdev`
>> drivers can find themselves pressed into use when accelerated graphics
>> is unavailable. Both of these drivers are somewhat deprecated
>> upstream, and the code to reach them is increasingly fragile as it
>> gets exercised less and less.
>>
>> This change will identify the remaining configurations that can reach
>> these drivers, establish an alternative for display support for each
>> configuration, and then remove the drivers and their support code in
>> xserver.
> 
> Removing the fallback drivers that (almost) always work strikes me as an 
> extraordinarily bad idea. It will knowingly desupport any graphics hardware 
> not covered by the main drivers and it may turn out to unknowingly desupport 
> even more hardware, where the hardware-specific drivers that should work 
> actually do not. It also means that there will be no workaround at all if 
> the native driver is temporarily broken on the given hardware for whatever 
> reason. Hence, I am strongly opposed to this change.
> 
>         Kevin Kofler

Same here.  There needs to be an always-working fallback, even if it
is slow.

-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
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