On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 5:37 PM Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 4/6/22 16:59, Robbie Harwood wrote: > > Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > >> On 4/5/22 12:29, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > >>> On Tue, Apr 5 2022 at 11:56:07 AM -0400, Robbie Harwood > >>> <rharwood@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> Users wishing to use NVIDIA hardware have the following options: > >>>> > >>>> - Use nouveau (free, open source, cool) > >>>> - Sign their own copy of the proprietary driver (involves messing with > >>>> certificates, so not appropriate for all users) > >>>> - Disable Secure Boot (note that this is still UEFI) > >>>> > >>>> The NVIDIA driver is proprietary, so of course it's not going to get > >>>> signed. > >>> > >>> The user experience requirement is: user searches for NVIDIA in GNOME > >>> Software and clicks Install. No further action should be > >>> necessary. We didn't make the NVIDIA driver available from the > >>> graphical installer with the intention that arcane workarounds would > >>> be required to use it. > >> > >> Bingo. None of the three options Robbie suggested are reasonable for > >> non-technical users. > > > > No, I don't think that's right. It's been a bit since I've run nvidia > > hardware, but I'm pretty sure using nouveau is the default. It's less > > powerful than the proprietary driver, but if it works out of the box, > > it's really difficult to argue with that user experience. > > Nouveau does not support any graphics acceleration on Ampere, and its > performance is very poor on Maxwell and later. Put more concretely in terms of user experience: nouveau causes regular, random, immediate system freezes with RTX 20 series and RTX 30 series GPUs. The only safe workaround is to force VGA/VESA mode until the NVIDIA proprietary driver is installed. I experienced this problem last week[1] and it's pretty consistent across the board. [1]: https://twitter.com/Det_Conan_Kudo/status/1508968025785049088 -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
