Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

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Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

> On 4/6/22 16:59, Robbie Harwood wrote:
>> Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> 
>>> On 4/5/22 12:29, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Apr 5 2022 at 11:56:07 AM -0400, Robbie Harwood 
>>>> <rharwood@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Users wishing to use NVIDIA hardware have the following options:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Use nouveau (free, open source, cool)
>>>>> - Sign their own copy of the proprietary driver (involves messing with
>>>>>   certificates, so not appropriate for all users)
>>>>> - Disable Secure Boot (note that this is still UEFI)
>>>>>
>>>>> The NVIDIA driver is proprietary, so of course it's not going to get
>>>>> signed.
>>>>
>>>> The user experience requirement is: user searches for NVIDIA in GNOME
>>>> Software and clicks Install. No further action should be
>>>> necessary. We didn't make the NVIDIA driver available from the
>>>> graphical installer with the intention that arcane workarounds would
>>>> be required to use it.
>>>
>>> Bingo.  None of the three options Robbie suggested are reasonable for
>>> non-technical users.
>> 
>> No, I don't think that's right.  It's been a bit since I've run nvidia
>> hardware, but I'm pretty sure using nouveau is the default.  It's less
>> powerful than the proprietary driver, but if it works out of the box,
>> it's really difficult to argue with that user experience.
>
> Nouveau does not support any graphics acceleration on Ampere, and its
> performance is very poor on Maxwell and later.

That may be true, but that has nothing to do with what non-technical
users are capable of doing to their systems.

Be well,
--Robbie

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