Re: F37 Change: Deprecate Legacy BIOS (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 10:59 AM Robbie Harwood <rharwood@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > This is not a deprecation change, this is effectively a removal
> > change. By removing the packages and the tooling support for legacy
> > BIOS, it makes several scenarios (including recovery) harder.
> > Moreover, it puts the burden on people to figure out if their hardware
> > can boot and install Fedora when we clearly haven't reached a critical
> > mass yet for doing so, like we did when we finally removed the i686
> > kernel build.
>
> I've stated in the change that the intent is to eventually remove legacy
> entirely - so there's no sleight of hand here.  The rest is a semantic
> issue which I don't care to argue.
>
> > 2. The packages are locked down so there is no way for the community to help
>
> I've replied to this when you said it before, but no, this is
> misinformation, and I'd appreciate if you stop spreading it.
>
> Bootloader packages are available for PRs, same as every other package
> in the distro.  Our bugzilla issues are as open as any other package in
> the distro.
>
> Quite simply, being able to make official builds isn't a requirement to
> help with any package in the distro, bootloader or otherwise.  And to
> peek behind the curtain a bit, running `fedpkg build` is not even close
> to the hardest or most time-consuming part of working on bootloader
> packages.
>
> > 3. At various times, people have explicitly said "patches NOT welcome"
>
> I see no evidence of this having happened, and it's definitely not
> something I've said.

The grub2 package had pull requests disabled until last year. That's a
pretty obvious hammer to indicate patches are not welcome. That's why
I couldn't send PRs to add the protected.d files for grub and had to
wait for someone else to do it by filing a BZ.



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