On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 10:59 AM Robbie Harwood <rharwood@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > This is not a deprecation change, this is effectively a removal > > change. By removing the packages and the tooling support for legacy > > BIOS, it makes several scenarios (including recovery) harder. > > Moreover, it puts the burden on people to figure out if their hardware > > can boot and install Fedora when we clearly haven't reached a critical > > mass yet for doing so, like we did when we finally removed the i686 > > kernel build. > > I've stated in the change that the intent is to eventually remove legacy > entirely - so there's no sleight of hand here. The rest is a semantic > issue which I don't care to argue. > > > 2. The packages are locked down so there is no way for the community to help > > I've replied to this when you said it before, but no, this is > misinformation, and I'd appreciate if you stop spreading it. > > Bootloader packages are available for PRs, same as every other package > in the distro. Our bugzilla issues are as open as any other package in > the distro. > > Quite simply, being able to make official builds isn't a requirement to > help with any package in the distro, bootloader or otherwise. And to > peek behind the curtain a bit, running `fedpkg build` is not even close > to the hardest or most time-consuming part of working on bootloader > packages. > > > 3. At various times, people have explicitly said "patches NOT welcome" > > I see no evidence of this having happened, and it's definitely not > something I've said. The grub2 package had pull requests disabled until last year. That's a pretty obvious hammer to indicate patches are not welcome. That's why I couldn't send PRs to add the protected.d files for grub and had to wait for someone else to do it by filing a BZ. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure