On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 7:08 AM Richard Hughes <hughsient@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 11:20, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > <dominik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > and on its way out. As it ages, maintainability has decreased, and > > > the status quo of maintaining both stacks in perpetuity is not viable > > > for those currently doing that work. > > Have you tried getting more people involved? > > I don't think that's how Open Source works. Realistically the way I > see this playing out is that the people responsible for maintaining > the legacy boot stack will retire the packages, some well meaning > community people take them over, then everything breaks in an > unexpected way before a Fedora release for some technical reason and > the new package maintainers have no idea how to fix the underlying > issue. Then Fedora QA needs to decide if the legacy boot failure is > actually release blocking. I'm happy to be proved wrong, but asking > someone "have you tried getting more people involved" is neither > helpful nor realistic. I agree 100%. I think this is actually getting to the crux of the issue, which is that while we have a lot of people that want BIOS support to continue, we effectively have nobody that wants to do the work to make it happen. We saw this with i686 installations and kernels, and I suspect the same will happen here. Even if Fedora QA decided it was release blocking, if there's nobody to do the work what does that actually mean? Fedora doesn't release indefinitely? The one positive thing that comes from this is that it will create an opportunity for people to learn about a new tech stack to scratch their own itch. That doesn't mean it will be successful in the end, but the community has always surprised me in many ways. It could lead to a Fedora Remix or Spin, for example. josh _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure