I have no strong opinion on this, and not much say anyways, but I thought I could share my little piece of info. My currently one and only computer is a 2012 MSI GE60 0ND, with a core i7-3630QM, 16GB RAM and retrofitted with a SSD. So I would say fast enough for using Fedora. At least according to notebookcheck.com the CPU is supposed to be faster than a rather recent Core i3-1110G4, which is still being used in new notebooks in 2022. Unfortunately it only supports legacy BIOS, and not UEFI. Thus I do not like the wording of the change proposal. > Fedora already requires a 2GHz dual core CPU at minimum (and therefore > mandates that machines must have been made after 2006). Like the > already accepted Fedora 37 change to retire ARMv7 support, the > hardware targeted tends to be rather underpowered by today’s > standards, and the world has moved on from it. Intel stopped shipping > the last vestiges of BIOS support in 2020 (as have other vendors, and > Apple and Microsoft), so this is clearly the way things are heading - > and therefore aligns with Fedora’s “First” objective. This seems to imply that only rather old and weak hardware would be affected, when clearly the cutoff is (at maximum) only 10 years back. Please don't get me wrong, I am perfectly fine about Fedora dropping "old" hardware, and I am willing to throw away my still working notebook, producing a little bit electronic waste when the time comes. But I think one should be more open and explicit about it. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure