On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 1:18 AM Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DeprecateLegacyBIOS > > == Summary == > Make UEFI a hardware requirement for new Fedora installations on > platforms that support it (x86_64). Legacy BIOS support is not > removed, but new non-UEFI installation is not supported on those > platforms. This is a first step toward eventually removing legacy > BIOS support entirely. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:rharwood| Robbie Harwood]], [[User:jkonecny| Jiří > Konečný]], [[User:bcl| Brian C. Lane]] > * Email: rharwood@xxxxxxxxxx > > > == Detailed Description == > UEFI is defined by a versioned standard that can be tested and > certified against. By contrast, every legacy BIOS is unique. Legacy > BIOS is widely considered deprecated (Intel, AMD, Microsoft, Apple) > and on its way out. As it ages, maintainability has decreased, and > the status quo of maintaining both stacks in perpetuity is not viable > for those currently doing that work. > > It is inevitable that legacy BIOS will be removed in a future release. > To ease this transition as best we can, there will be a period (of at > least one Fedora release) where it will be possible to boot using the > legacy BIOS codepaths, but new installations will not be possible. > While it would be easier for us to cut support off today, our hope is > that this compromise position will make for a smoother transition. > Additional support with issues during the transition would be > appreciated. > Just a personal frustration here, I recently worked on a project to rewrite the mesa driver for a range of intel GPUs from gen4->gen7, we ship it in Fedora 35 as the default driver on those GPUs. It was of great benefit to me and the community that I could use Fedora for developing this sort of feature, and have a place to roll it out for validation. This change would invalidate a wide range of the machines I wrote this on from being used. I have a fully operational 965G desktop machine that runs f35, a mostly operational 965GM HP laptop with busted fan, and a GM45 in a Thinkpad W500 machine that are all pre-UEFI but still can run fedora. I've got one Ironlake HP laptop that has UEFI but only if I hand pick the boot file since its UEFI implementation has a bunch of BIOS warnings around it saying not to enable it for normal use. The T440s I have doesn't seem to be installed in UEFI mode and that likely means I need to nuke it and start again. This would mean for future projects I'd probably have to consider moving off Fedora would definitely count as a major pita for me, I also cleanly installed all these machines with F35 as I didn't want the behaviour of updating from f31 to f33 to f35 etc. Dave. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure