Re: Having a copy of .torrent in the /iso dir

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On 7/5/05, Nicholas Miell <nmiell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 16:28 -0400, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> > On 7/5/05, Richard June <rjune@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I gotta say, I *LIKE* that plan.
> > > you want fedora for the first few days, great. get the torrent.
> >
> > Thats very short sighted. Not everyone lives on a network that is
> > friendly to torrent activity.
> 
> They can wait a week.

But the won't wait. Just like the god damn morons who sneak out a
torrent from an unlocked mirrors don't wait.  As soon as its in the
wild in any way shape or form.. people are going to mirror it in a way
that works best for them.  That means rsync and ftp and http mirrors
will spring up as soon as possible to fill the need.  People CAN 
CHOOSE to use the torrent right now. People aren't CHOOSING to do
that. If the torrent was clearly the best option for the majority of
the userbase... we wouldn't see the mirrors being hammered on release
day.  I think people need to stop trying to force the torrent to be
the one-true  distribution technology.

> Those admins can set access controls on their FTP servers.

So its not really a staggered release then is it... if mirror admins
can individual choose to wait or not... you haven't really
accomplished much.

> They wait already.

> That's OK for them, the purpose of this exercise is to decrease the
> stress on official mirrors, not prevent the propagation of Fedora.

Or perhaps, it would just inspire official mirrors from delisting from
the official list in order to be free to open the tree for the segment
of the userbase they are most concerned with serving. How effective is
that torrent seed based in the US ... compared to a mirror in
australia.. if you are living in australia ... on that first day of
release or the second day of the release?  Hmmm?

If the purpose of this excercise is to decrease the stress on the
official mirrors.. how about we make sure the official mirrors like
the idea of waiting longer while a torrent opens up.  I'm pretty sure
the idea of a staggered release has come up before, and if it were a
concensous among those hosting official mirrors I'm pretty sure the
policy would be in place right now.

-jef

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