On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 08:06:34AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 7:50 AM Kamil Dudka <kdudka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 10:01:10 AM CET Paul Howarth wrote: > > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:00:06 -0500 > > > Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CurlMinimal_as_Default > > > > > > > > == Summary == > > > > `libcurl-minimal` and `curl-minimal` will be installed by default > > > > instead of `libcurl` and `curl`. > > > > The "minimal" variants provide only a subset of protocols (HTTP, > > > > HTTPS, FTP). The full versions can be explicitly requested as > > > > `libcurl-full` and `curl-full`. > > > > > > > > > Upstream's thoughts: > > > https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2022/03/16/fedora-and-curl-minimal/ > > > > > > Paul. > > > > For completeness, here is a pull request by Miro Hrončok to change the > > packaging of curl to something that FESCO would like to have for the > > proposed Fedora change to be accepted: > > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/curl/pull-request/14 > > > > Advantages: > > - libcurl-full can be automatically installed as a dependency in a dnf > > transaction without the need to use `--allowerasing` or `dnf swap`. > > > > Disadvantages: > > - It is incompatible with the current packaging used since RHEL-8. > > - It allows to install both libcurl-minimal and libcurl-full together. > > - It relies on complex RPM scriptlets to manipulate symlinks, which > > may misbehave in some corner cases, resulting in broken dnf stack. > > > > Can we just not do this at all? It seems even upstream is unhappy with > the proposal too. And frankly, if we do this, I will adjust *at least* > Fedora KDE to ship full curl because it's impossible for me to figure > out who will be broken by defaulting to minimal. I would also make the > same recommendation to Workstation and other desktop variants. > > I'm very sensitive to people considering Fedora as "broken by > default", especially as we're trying to bring new folks into Fedora. > And having *less* protocols than macOS and Windows curl by default is > very obviously a problem. We had that problem with OpenSSL for > *years*, but at least we had the whole "crypto software patents" thing > as a defense. > > This has no real defense. +1 -- David Cantrell <dcantrell@xxxxxxxxxx> Red Hat, Inc. | Boston, MA | EST5EDT _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
