Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 6:41 AM Paul Howarth <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 12:26:54 +0100
> Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > On 10/03/2022 11:55, Alex wrote:
> > > May I suggest to leave at least the telnet protocol in curl-minimal
> > > for debugging purposes.
> >
> > Telnet is an extremely vulnerable protocol. It must be disable.
> >
> > If you need it, you can always install libcurl-full.
>
> I wonder, do you have the "telnet" program installed on your machine(s)?

"netcat" or "nc" is a much better, more scriptable tool than telnet.
There is no reason for the telnet binary. And the telnet daemon,
itself, is profoundly deprecated.

> I'd be surprised if anyone using curl's telnet *client* support wasn't
> aware that it was sending plain text over the network, possibly
> including any credentials that were being used. A telnet client is,
> however, a very useful debugging tool for various other network
> protocols, not just the telnet protocol itself. That is, I believe,
> what Alex was advocating for, since the curl tool's presence is
> well-nigh universal and hence always available for debugging some
> network issues.

curl rather than netcat is simply not being aware of a better tool. Enjoy.
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