Re: Landing a larger-than-release change (distrusting SHA-1 signatures)

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Once upon a time, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
> Previous tightening of crypto defaults caused problems with us
> connecting to older ssh servers.

I also have had trouble connecting to major vendor websites.  The vendor
response is just "works in Chrome and Firefox on Windows, must be your
problem".

> I am particularly interested / worried about sshd from RHEL 5, 6 & 7
> for virt-p2v and virt-v2v conversions.  This broke before, requiring
> us to advise users to set the global policy for the machine to LEGACY
> (thus ironically weakening crypto for everything).
> 
> Also I have some ancient network equipment that cannot be upgraded but
> needs older ssh protocols.  I can't connect to it from Fedora unless I
> set the crypto policy to LEGACY.

Yeah, the model in general seems a little broken to me, especially as I
found the policies are implemented unevenly (IIRC my problem was OpenSSL
couldn't connect but GnuTLS could for example), which just leads to
confusion.

I understand and approve of having good system-wide defaults, but there
needs to be a way to connect to a specific site/device/whatever without
having to lower the system-wide policy.  For SSH, you can usually do
that by adjusting the settings on a per-device basis on the command line
or in ~/.ssh/config (setting PublickeyAcceptedKeyTypes, KexAlgorithms,
HostKeyAlgorithms, and/or Ciphers as needed).

I had to SSH to a FreeBSD 4.x server last year!  So many SSH config
options required... it had been up without a reboot since 2007 IIRC.

I am very much not a UI/UX person, but Firefox and other browsers really
could use a good way to override system crypto policy on a per-site
basis.

-- 
Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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