Re: F37 Change: Encourage Dropping Unused / Leaf Packages on i686 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

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On Mon, Mar 07, 2022 at 03:01:32PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-03-07 at 20:32 +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 8:25 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > 
> > > So, I'll go ahead and be a bad guy here:
> > > 
> > > Perhaps it's time to just retire i686 completely?
> > > 
> > > Steam is available as a flatpak, and old software thats 32bit only and
> > > can't be rebuilt could just be run from a f36 container?
> > > 
> > > This would save us:
> > > 
> > > * all the builder resources
> > > * all the multilib calculation time/space in composes
> > > 
> > > If we don't want to retire it now, when will we?
> > 
> > I have considered this option, but I don't think we can do that yet.
> > 
> > For example, as far as I know, you need the 32-bit host libraries for
> > running 32-bit Windows applications in Wine.
> > Dropping that would make our Wine packages almost useless, since a
> > large fraction of Windows software still isn't 64-bit.
> > 
> > But I could be wrong. And if we indeed don't need wine.i686 to run
> > 32-bit Windows apps, retiring i686 entirely would be an option, I
> > agree.
> > (I myself am using the Steam flatpak you mentioned. It works well, and
> > I don't need 32-bit libs on my host system at all, which is nice.)
> 
> Wouldn't wine problem be solved by providing the 32bit version as a
> flatpak if still needed for some corner cases?

I'd really prefer that we don't go down this static-linked blob route.
There's a reason I'm using a proper distro.

Rich.

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