Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On Thursday, February 24, 2022 3:37:56 PM CET Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 8:58 AM Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 02:28:08PM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote:
> > > On Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:35:38 PM CET Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > > Did you discuss modularising curl itself upstream?
> > > 
> > > It was added to their wish list but I do not remember anybody working on 
it:
> > >     https://github.com/curl/curl/commit/8204844f
> > > > 
> > > > That would be a better idea.
> > > 
> > > Not necessarily.  Each approach has its pros and cons.
> > 
> > I'm intrigued by what you think the cons would be.  AFAICT if curl was
> > modular in this way already we wouldn't be discussing this proposal at
> > all,
> > but a different and better one around packaging splits.
> 
> It would also avoid the usability nightmare that comes with trying to
> trigger switching implementations. This is a very big hammer that
> basically tells people that we're crippling curl by default for users
> and it has very large network effects across the entire distribution.
> It's quite one thing to use curl-minimal for containers where people
> expect tools to be broken in the endless pursuit of smaller base
> images, but when real people need to use real systems in complex
> configurations, having a reduced functionality curl by default is just
> going to lead to support nightmares and complaints about random
> breakages in applications on Fedora.

Installations that need libcurl-full will have it installed.  There is no 
problem there.  You could hardly find a default that will fit everybody's 
taste.

Kamil

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