On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 08:51:10AM +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 10:50:06 PM CET Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> said: > > > > > Yes. But how many domains using idn are there? I worked on idn support > > > in systemd, but when preparing the description of this change I realized > > > that I have _never_ once used an idn domain outside of testing. > > > > > > And note that this is not about user-facing programs like firefox. > > > I assume that there might be _some_ use of idn in firefox. But for > > > command-line tools like curl this seems even less likely. > > > > > > I'm pretty sure use of IDN domains is a regional thing. I live in the > > US and don't see IDN domains in my normal use. But dropping support for > > them from a core utility would be bad for those that live in regions > > where IDN domains may be more common. > > > > -- > > Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > If this appears to be a real problem, it is easy for us to re-enable IDN > in libcurl-minimal, even in an update of a stable Fedora release. So I do > not think we need to enable it proactively. According to ICANN [1], there were 8.3 mln IDN domains worldwide. I admit that is more than I expected. According to verisgn [2], out of 364.6 mln total, i.e. around 2%. Apparently .рф is fairly popular, with 1/5th of .ru registrations [3]. But from what I have seen, all those internationalized domains serve as a redirect or backup to sites also available as ascii. And for command-line tools or scripting, using those ascii versions seems quite likely… I certainly wouldn't want to break things for people using non-latin scripts. So I'd definitely vote to enable libidn2 in curl-minimal, _if_ there are people who'd actually use this for real. [1] https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/supporting-a-multilingual-internet-through-idns-icann-idn-progress-report-14-1-2022-en [2] https://www.verisign.com/en_US/domain-names/dnib/index.xhtml [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.%D1%80%D1%84 Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
