Re: F37 Change: Curl-minimal as default (System-Wide Change proposal)

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On 2/22/22 13:57, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Ben Cotton <bcotton@xxxxxxxxxx> said:
>> Those infrequently used protocols are less tested than the common ones
>> and are a source of security bugs.
>> Most users are not using those protocols anyway, so disabling them
>> reduces the bug and attack surface.
> 
> This is a poor argument IMHO.  If the protocols are still going to be
> shipped, they need to be maintained to the same level.  There will be
> things that want to use some other protocol and guides on the Internet
> that say "for Fedora, install the full curl", so from a security
> standpoint, the maintenance requirement is still the same.

Reducing maintenance requirements is not the purpose of this change.
The purpose is to reduce the likelihood that a user is compromised by a
0day or other vulnerability.  The fewer people are impacted by a given
vulnerability, the better.

> Looking at the curl RPM changelog on F35, most CVE entries seem to be
> TLS and/or HTTP(S) related, with a couple of TELNET and one MQTT.
> Looking back to 2020, there were more TLS and a couple of FTP (which is
> staying in the minimal build).
> 
> If TELNET/etc. is a problem and not being maintained upstream, then just
> drop TELNET.  Don't shuffle it off to the side and ignore security
> issues in a package still in the repos.

As mentioned above, the purpose of this change is to ensure that
vulnerabilities in obscure protocols impact a smaller fraction of
users.  Right now, a vulnerability in an obscure protocol impacts
most users.  With this change, it will only impact users that have
installed the full version of curl.  This is independent of whether a
given protocol should be disabled outright.

-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)

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